Dopod 838Pro (HTC Hermes)

Posted by on Oct 8, 2006 in Reviews | 10 comments

Dopod 838ProINTRODUCTION

The Dopod 838Pro is a Pocket PC Phone designed and manufactured by the giants HTC. Codenamed Hermes, it is sold elsewhere in the world as the Orange SPV M3100, Dopod CHT9000, Vodafone v1605, and Cingular 8525.

 

 

 

World’s First 3G Windows Mobile PDA Phone With Sliding Keyboard

The Dopod 838Pro brings cutting edge technology into the hands of users. Packing 7 network bands into a slim package, together with WiFi 802.11g. The Dopod 838Pro is a the device for the modern executive.

 

Quadband GSM + Triband WCDMA

Not content with bringing Quadband GSM support, the 838Pro also supports Triband WCDMA (850/1900/2100).

 

WiFi 802.11g

Supporting the latest WiFi 802.11g network, the 838Pro can surf the Internet or download emails at speeds up to 54Mbps.

 

2 megapixel camera with macro-lens, flash and mirror

Bringing even more value to its customers, Dopod has continued with the innovative macro-lens solution first started in the 818Pro. Only this time, its paired with a flash and mirror as well to make snaps even more enjoyable.

 

 

 

INCLUDED IN THE BOX

  • AC Adapter
  • Companion CD
  • Battery
  • Mini USB Cable
  • Pouch
  • Stereo headset
  • User Guide
  • Quick Start Guide
  • Extra stylus

 

 

SPECIFICATIONS 

Operating system

Microsoft Windows Mobile 5.0 for Pocket PC Phone Edition

Display

2.8” display, QVGA resolution (240×320), 65K colour TFT LCD

RF

GSM (850/900/1800/1900) / GPRS / EDGE / WCDMA (UMTS)

Camera

Primary: 2.0 megapixel / Panoramic Mode / Digital Focus / No Time Limit on Voice & Video Recording / Flash 

Secondary: 0.1 megapixel

CPU

Samsung CPU 400 Mhz

Memory

128MB ROM / 64 MB RAM

Data input

QWERTY keypad / 360º jog wheel

Connectivity

Wi-Fi 802.11b/g / Bluetooth v2.0 / IrDA /USB 1.1

Expansion

Micro-SD Memory Card (Max. 1GB*)

Ringtones

MP3, WMA, WAV, Polyphonic (40 chords)

Weight

176 g (With Battery)

Dimensions

58 mm (w) x 112.5 mm (l) x 21.95 mm (d)

Battery

1350 mAh

Standby / Talk time

Standby: GSM – 220hrs / UMTS – 180-250 hrs

Talk (without back-light): GSM – 4-5hrs / UMTS – 2-4 hrs

Bundled Applications

Microsoft Internet Explorer / PocketMSN Messenger / Windows Media Player / Microsoft Pocket Outlook / ZIP / Camera / Wireless Manager

 

Note that the 838Pro has support for HSDPA, but it is disabled by default.  Luckily there is a utility called fit4cat Hermes Tweaker that will allow you to do just that (and more.. think of it as "PowerToys" for your Hermes).

 

*1GB maximum according to the official specs — but I have used a Sandisk 2GB card with no problems.

 

Official pics provided by Dopod:

 

front   back
 
frontopen45   frontopen
 
rightside   leftside

 


DOPOD 838PRO FRONT VIEW
top: messaging, Internet Explorer, video-conferencing camera
bottom: video-calling button, two soft keys, start, "OK", call and end-call buttons

Though aesthetically more pleasing, the buttons around the D-pad are not as easy to navigate as the 818Pro’s. In my opinion, the 6 keys around the D-pad are too tightly packed together and could have benefited from slightly raising the "Start" and "OK" keys. I always manage to answer a call prematurely when taking the phone out of my case.

front view
DOPOD 838PRO LEFT SIDE
Moving from left to right – A 360-degree jog wheel makes this the first attempt by HTC at a "one-handed device", though the wheel felt more natural to use in my left hand. From there we have the "OK" and "Voice Commander" buttons. (Note the raised dot on the OK button to let you easily distinguish between the two)  This button acts as the "x" in the top right of the screen inside WM5, but once you get to the Today Screen, it will invoke the Start Menu.  Voice Commander has been improved and made more useable thanks primarily to the beefed-up Samsung 400MHz processor. Finally, we have the MicroSD slot (formerly known as TransFlash), and on the bottom right of the image is the phone-strap hole.
left side

 

 

DOPOD 838PRO RIGHT SIDE
Moving from left to right – The stylus slot is at the bottom left of this image, followed by Camera, Comm Manager, and Power buttons. Again, because of the 400MHz CPU, the camera application starts up much faster than the 818Pro’s – this will reduce the chances of missing a "Kodak moment", a frustration I was all too familiar with while using the HTC Prophet!
right side

 

 

DOPOD 838PRO BOTTOM
Starting from the left, we have the Infrared port, which HTC has already revealed plans to phase out. This is followed by the reset hole (which can fit the tip of the stylus or a paper clip), microphone, battery latch release and the mini-USB port. The irregularly-shaped USB port is to accomodate the included headphones, which no longer uses a 2.5mm round audio jack.  On the bottom corners of this image you can see phone strap hole and the stylus.
bottom

 

 

DOPOD 838PRO BACK
Popping up the back cover will reveal…

back of the unit

 

 

 …the battery compartment, and underneath it, the SIM card slot. You can see from the sticker that this is a HERM100 model, which as far as I know differs from the HERM200 mainly in its button layout and overall shape. (The HTC TyTN is an example of a HERM200 part.)
battery cover open

 

 

CLOSE-UP SHOT of the 2.0MP camera. Immediately to its left is the self-portrait mirror, and to its right is the LED light that can be illuminated for indoor shots at night.  Next to the light is a selector that switches between "normal" and "macro" modes.  The black rubber gasket connects to the car antenna, while the slit beneath the mirror is the external speaker. From my usage these past weeks, the speaker has better volume and clarity than the 818Pro.
camera

 

 

THE QWERTY KEYBOARD was as far as I am concerned the Hermes’ main selling point. I absolutely loved the QWERTY on my XDA2s and it’s fantastic to have one back to peck out my SMSes! It’s not possible to type with one hand as it was with the 2s unless you want to risk dropping your precious 838Pro. Tactile strength of the keys is excellent, and each key’s minute curvature makes it easy to type on – you won’t find your finger tips "overspilling" onto keys next to your intended target.  Don’t bet on becoming a touch typist with this keyboard, however, even though the "F" and "J" keys have the home row notches.

You can see above the "W" and "I" keys the hardware buttons that correspond to WM5′s soft keys; above the "P" key is a light sensor that detects the lighting to determine whether or not the keyboard should illuminate. 

keyboard

 

 

WHEN THE KEYBOARD IS USED IN A DARK environment, the sensor will light up the 838Pro’s keyboard in this beautiful blue. To access the symbols and other alternate functions, simply press the • on the bottom left before the actual key.  You can see that there is a shortcut for Wifi ("•" + "OK") and File Explorer ("•" + right arrow).
keyboard illuminated

 

THE BOX shows the presence of SIS International, who acts as Dopod’s local distributor and is responsible for general repairs & exchanges.
Dopod 838Pro box

 

THE INCLUDED MANUAL (almost 400 pages!) goes into great detail on how to use your 838Pro. On the two CDs you will find ActiveSync 4.1, Outlook 2002, and Worldcard Mobile. The latter allows you to use the built-in camera to capture an image of a business card, and use the OCR capabilities to automatically "fill in the blanks" of a new contact. Chinese display software is required if you wish to scan business cards in Chinese.

CDs and manual

 

 

THE HEADPHONE SET with the mini-USB connector on the bottom of the 838Pro – there is no 2.5 or 3.5mm audio jack at all on the 838Pro. Note that the plug has a 90-degree right-angled corner, making it somewhat "proprietary." The set is much improved over what came with the 818Pro in terms of build quality. The round button is the answer/hang up call button; volume slider is just below it; and the small hole is the mic.

Headphones with USB-like connector

 

 

LEATHER CASE bundled with the 838Pro is of excellent quality and includes no exposed metal parts…
case with no exposed metal parts

 

 

 …as opposed to the 818Pro’s case (left), which could scratch the PDA if not taken out with care.
818Pro (left) vs. 838Pro (right)

 

 

THE STYLUS is a telescoping one and fits snugly inside the 838Pro. You will need to use a good bit of force to pry it out of its slot, but it is quite comfortable to hold and use contrary to opinions I have seen out on the net. Move mouse cursor over the stylus to see the stylus in its shortened form.
Stylus

 

 

THE BATTERY is a 1350mAh Lithium-Ion unit, whereas 818Pro’s was Lithium-Ion Polymer. (The 838Pro box incorrectly refers to the battery as being 1300mAh)
1350mAh battery

 

DOPOD 818PRO, DOPOD 838PRO, O2 ATOM comparison shot. Between the three, the 838Pro had the hardest time standing up straight!
818Pro, 838Pro, Atom

 

 

STACKED SIDE VIEW of the Dopod 838Pro [21.95mm thick], O2 Atom [18.5mm thick], and Dopod 818Pro [18.2mm thick].
838Pro, Atom, 818Pro

 

 

VIEW FROM THE BOTTOM, the same three devices. Here you can clearly see the difference between the USB-connectors.
838Pro, Atom, 818Pro

 

COMPARISON: Dopod 838Pro and Dopod 818Pro.
838Pro (left), 818Pro (right)

 


  

SOFTWARE

During the initial bootup, the machine applies Dopod-specific changes, and installs extra games and programs.  This is the list of installed applications you will find at Start >> Programs after the 5-minute initilization:

  • ActiveSync
  • Calculator
  • Camera
  • ClearVue PDF
  • Download Agent
  • Excel Mobile
  • File Explorer
  • MIDlet Manager
  • MP3 Player – a nice alternative to WMP.
  • Notes
  • Pictures & Videos
  • Pocket MSN
  • PowerPoint Mobile
  • QuickMark – allows you to capture and decode QR Code.
  • Search
  • SIM Manager
  • Streaming Media – for playback of Real Time Streaming Protocol files.
  • Tasks
  • Terminal Services
  • Voice Commander – control your 838Pro with spoken commands.
  • Wireless Modem
  • World Mobile
  • Zip – create and uncompress ZIP files on your PDA using this util.
  • Games:
    • Solitaire
    • Bubble Breaker
    • Magic Puz – "Connect two or more of same colored ball, horizontal or vertical, in a limited amount of time to make them disappear."
    • Another World – "A young scientist was brought to another world during a lightning strike accident in his particle experiment lab. The goal of the game is to rescue the young scientest from this other world."

 

Today screen after hard reset, showing Dopod’s included greyish theme. After sliding out the keyboard, the screen automatically changes to landscape view. There is not noticeable delay when switching between the two thanks to the speedy 400MHz CPU.
today1  today2

 

 

Settings – About show the Samsung SC32442-400MHz CPU and AKU2.3. A2DP is supported without the need for hacks. Device Information with more detail about CPU, ROM, etc.
settings_about settings_hardware


 

 

Memory shows the 128MB ROM. The default ROM with a date of July 21.
settings_memory settings_rom

 

5 hardware buttons are programmable. Here I have changed the default Voice Commander button to screen capture. The keyboard sensor can be disabled.
keyboard_buttons keyboard_sensor

 

QuickMark uses the camera to capture QR Code. Streaming Media opens media compatible with rtsp:// (Real Time Streaming Protocol).
quickmark streaming_about

 

Cyberon Voice Commander - on the default 838Pro ROM is Version 1.6 Build 606161. Voice Commander is more "useable" due to the improved processor speed.
vc_about vc

 

Comm Manager remains unchanged from 818Pro. Windows Media Player Version 10.2 Build 14955. Still can’t figure out why the customizations do not automatically create a program shortcut.
comm_manager wmp_about

 

WorldCard Mobile is a business card recognition program. It has 3 different language settings: English, Traditional Chinese, and Simplified Chinese. The application comes on a CD in the box and is not installed automatically after a hard reset.
worldcard worldcard_about

 

Camera viewfinder shows the adjustable options including LED light, zoom, etc., and has generally been improved over the 818Pro software. The most notable change, however, will be the speed at which the camera starts up. When a MicroSD card is inserted, the camera app is smart enough to detect it and gives the option of automatically changing the storage to the removeable disk. It’s also smart enough to avoid filename issues like this.
camera camera_confirm

 

The new MP3 player’s finger-friendly user interface. MP3 Player - About info
mp3_player mp3_about

 


      

 

 

 

These results were obtained using Spb Benchmark, and taken immediately after a hard reset.

 

MAIN TEST RESULTS

Test Time Speed % of iPAQ 3650* speed
Write 1 MB file  1284 ms  798 KB/sec  100% 
Read 1 MB file  287 ms  3.49 MB/sec  19% 
Copy 1 MB file  1233 ms  831 KB/sec  105% 
Write 10 KB x 100 files  3259 ms  314 KB/sec  56% 
Read 10 KB x 100 files  470 ms  2.13 MB/sec  34% 
Copy 10 KB x 100 files  3127 ms  328 KB/sec  69% 
Directory list of 2000 files  1487 ms  1.34 thousands of files/sec  1% 
Internal database read  774 ms  1292 records/sec  307% 
Graphics test: DDB BitBlt  7.93 ms  126 frames/sec  469% 
Graphics test: DIB BitBlt  40.3 ms  24.8 frames/sec  184% 
Graphics test: GAPI BitBlt  13.3 ms  75 frames/sec  35% 
Pocket Word document open  28162 ms  9.25 KB/sec  30% 
Pocket Internet Explorer HTML load  3500 ms  7.07 KB/sec  54% 
Pocket Internet Explorer JPEG load  1889 ms  134 KB/sec  254% 
File Explorer large folder list  4172 ms  479 files/sec  93% 
Compress 1 MB file using ZIP  4186 ms  242 KB/sec  228% 
Decompress 1024×768 JPEG file  608 ms  462 KB/sec  145% 
Arkaball frames per second  17.3 ms  57.7 frames/sec  53% 
CPU test: Whetstones MFLOPS  4455 ms  0.083 Mop/sec  181% 
CPU test: Whetstones MOPS  1176 ms  53.6 Mop/sec  157% 
CPU test: Whetstones MWIPS  9394 ms  5.32 Mop/sec  179% 
Memory test: copy 1 MB using memcpy  17.5 ms  57.2 MB/sec  81% 

*iPAQ 3650 running Pocket PC 2000

 

The score of 1% in "Directory list of 2000 files" looks a bit odd, but remember that "benchmarks are just benchmarks." Just know that if you are coming from the TI OMAP850 200MHz CPU found in the HTC Wizard (Dopod 838) or Prophet (Dopod 818Pro), there will be a very noticeable increase in overall responsiveness.

(For reference, the iPaq 3650 uses a 206 MHz Intel StrongARM Processor, 32 MB of RAM, 16 MB of ROM, and a 12-bit (4096 colour) Thin-Film Transistor (TFT) Display.)

 


  

CAMERA SAMPLE PHOTOS

  • Taken with Dopod 838Pro
  • 2.0 megapixels (1600 x 1200)
  • Pictures have not been resized or edited
  • All other camera settings at default

 

 Indoor (click to enlarge)image_006

 

 
 Macro (click to enlarge)image_020
 
 Outdoor  (click to enlarge)image_021
 
 Night shot (click to enlarge)image_026

 

As is the case with the HTC Prophet, the camera is at its best when taking shots in daylight. Anything else and your hands will need to be very steady, though the LED light helps somewhat for indoor situations.

It’s up to HTC to significantly improve the camera as it seems to have fallen behind the likes of Sony-Ericsson and Nokia in the camera department. 

 

 

 


  

PROS OF THE 838PRO

Overall, I am liking the 838Pro a lot, for a variety of reasons:

  • Keyboard, keyboard, keyboard. I use it as much as I can and sometimes wish it can be permanently extended. It’s comfortable to type on, and the blue backlight just makes it sexy, if you can call a gadget that.
  • The speed of the CPU is fantastic; no more moments of frustration and impatience from the 818Pro’s OMAP850 200MHz CPU. One word comes to mind: freedom!
  • Jog wheel – scrollable in all directions, it fully qualifies as a jog wheel and not a "slider" like the 818Pro.
  • SKYPE WORKS! With the latest beta version installed, I have had perfectly clear conversations via wi-fi with another user on both a laptop and O2 Atom. This is the first experience I’ve had with Skype for PPC that was completely and positively hassle-free. (the XDA2s and 818Pro were both extremely dissappointing in this department)
  • 3G and HSDPA-enabled, which would have been great – had SmarTone supported the 838Pro on HSDPA.

ANNOYANCES OF THE 838PRO

A> Cannot be improved
  • The camera falls into this category, as hardware limitations prevent any hope of a change. The picture quality from the 838Pro is "acceptable" – but your digital camera’s job is safe for now.
B> Can be fixed in time (maybe?)
  • Hopefully SmarTone will hear our (my?) pleas and let us hop on their HSDPA pipe. I’d rather pay for the unlimited wireless package than get charged 1MB for an AvantGo sync that I *thought* was using Wi-Fi.
  • Calls are "connected" too easily – I have managed to mis-dial people randomly (without me knowing!) and answer incoming calls prematurely when taking the phone out of the case. This could be related to the cramped layout of the buttons.
  • MMS not working, despite numerous technical support calls and visits to SmarTone’s branches.
  • Software keyboard bug, which I seem to be the only one experiencing. Basically I am not able to select suggested words with the directional pad. This is a bit of a letdown especially given that the Phone Pad input method has not made its way into the 838Pro.

   

The 838Pro is easily the best Pocket PC Phone I have owned to date, despite the above minor annoyances. The keyboard, CPU speed and other "pros" far outweigh the negatives. 

 

I hope solutions can be found for the fixeable issues, and I will surely update if/when that happens. In the meantime, please leave a message below if you have questions or general comments. We also have a running forum discussion thread here.

 

  • jawis

    Great review! My resistance in becoming a Dopod convert is waning. I guess only thing stopping me now is that it appears that no more 838pros in Hk right now

  • Norton
  • kai

    thanks for those links, I was aware of the screen alignment issue, just not of a 838pro “recall” in HK…

    I thought the concensus was that the screen alignment issue had been fixed after a certain batch of HTC Hermes… i.e. HTC63xxxxxx ?

  • Keith again

    I am going to order my 838 Pro next week
    http://www.hkpug.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&topic_id=1659&forum=29
    But are these updates a must for newbie like me? Or these bugs should be fixed in the next shipment?

  • Norton

    I picked it up in wanchai computer center – paid too much, but anxious to get it. Beautiful. Skype works flawlessly over wifi. not too big, or heavy. Very nice.

  • jess

    Now that they have the 2GB micrSD, will the Dopod 838Pro be able to read this? Has anybody tried it?

  • jess

    Thanks Kai, I can now shop on ebay. The specs you have above says 1GB max by the way.

  • LE

    HI Guys, I just have new dopod 838pro about 2 weeks, first problem came that I could not been able to open sms and calendar, bottom L corner on screen keep “blinking”, tried to soft reset several times, unsucessful. I then decided to do hard reset. Second problem came, I could not pass throught the screen alightment process, the curssor keep moving , I tried about half an hour chasing that stupid moving cussor. Not sucessful again! I rang dopod service, currently only autherised repaired service is contatable in Australia , but it is in Sydney ( I live in Melbourne) , I dont know what to do now.
    LE

  • kai

    LE – did you get your unit first-hand? (i.e. not used?) what is the batch number of your 838Pro, should be something like HTC63xxxxxx — it will tell you on the box.

  • kai

    Dopod 838 Pro, no question. You may want to check on availability of the Softbank X01HT, the Japanese equivalent version…