- November 27, 2007 at 8:03 am #2694
I have just joined a $HK188 data plan with Smartone-Vodaphone, which gets me a HSDPA hookup. This plan includes 100mb of data with $HK3/1mb thereafter. There is a $488 unlimited plan available, but it requires you to sign up for a 18 month commitment. There is no commitment with the current plan I have so gives me a chance to try it out first.
When I first signed up for the plan they mentioned that the speed was 1.8G, but you would have 3.5G speed if your phone was HSDPA enabled. I have used Fit4cat to enable it so I hope it is working.
My main reason for getting this plan is so the Dopod D810 becomes a modem for my laptop when I don’t have a wired broadband available. The D810 comes with a utility called Internet Sharing in the Programs folder. This allows you to hook up the D810 to the laptop so it can share the HSDPA connection.
When you start the program it disables Activesync. Xp may bring up a warning saying that Activesync is not working properly, but you can ignore this warning box and just close it. You will know if the laptop is connected properly to the D810 by seeing a “connected” status in the Internet Sharing utility on the PocketPC.
Internet Sharing with “Connected” status
Intitial impressions have been very good. Once online it feels no different to having a broadband connection. Pages are loading up very quickly. If I ignore the Dopod next to me I could swear I was still using my wifi connection.
One problem I did have was not having anything to monitor my data usage. There is nothing in XP to show any connection speeds or data usage. Smartone mentioned I could use *#123# which will sms me my data usage, but it is not real time.
I finally settled on buying SpB GPRS Monitor. This is a great program for tracking data usage and data speed. This program came free with my previous Atom, but unfortunately not with the D810. The program adds a handy summary on the Today screen plus they also added shortcuts to screen brightness, battery condition, gprs on/off, PIE and Messenger.
Since using GPRS monitor, the fastest data rate I have seen is 912kbits/sec. In the real world it means, so far I have not noticed any reduction in speed while online.GPRS monitoring using SpB Gprs Monitor (912kbits/sec )
This morning I tried dslreports while using the HSDPA connection. I got a much slower speed of 536kbits/sec, but browsing online still felt very quick. Interestingly I compared the speed to my wifi-broadband connection in the office. I am using a 1.8M line at work. My results were even slower at 232kbits/sec! Once again though, I find online use at work is more than adequate.
dslreport and HSDPA
dslreport and Office wifi
Obviously another way of using this connection is on the D810 itself. My observations are that it feels no different to using the wifi connection on the PocketPC. It doesn’t fly at a cracking pace when the D810 acts as a modem for the laptop, but it still manages to check email and load up PIE pages reasonably quick. I do notice that the data rate on SpB does not get much faster than 100kbits/sec, but I also noticed data usage is much less as well.
So far my experience with HSDPA on the D810 has been positive. Wireless broadband is a convenient solution to connecting a laptop to the internet anywhere.
I can see that if I am not careful I will use up my 100mb very quickly. I am still pondering over the $488/mnth unlimited plan from Smartone. It is still a little expensive for a plan that requires a commitment. There are also limitations to VOIP and bittorrent usage on the unlimited plan, which may be annoying to some.
As with all things new, the price plans will hopefully start to come down soon. 3 has recently launched their HSDPA network so hopefully we wil see some price shuffling between the phone companies.
My data usage spike since acquiring HSDPA!November 27, 2007 at 8:03 am #2695
how do you set up the laptop for internet connection?November 27, 2007 at 8:03 am #2696
You should not have to setup up the Laptop. Just connect the Dopod to the laptop as if doing an Activesync. When you are connected, click Connect in the Internet Sharing utility and the laptop should start sharing the online connection of your Dopod.November 27, 2007 at 8:03 am #2697
I just got a new Dopod D810 and therefore have decided to change to a 3G network.
Alternative data plan offer to smart-tone one mentioned above, which is not bad (in Hong Kong) at the moment is Hutchison “3” network’s plan… join any 3G phone plan (I joined HK$128 plan HK$12 for tunnel / mtr use and then I also get less $40 per month for changing way from the Sunday network – so HK$100 per month for 3G phone use).
With any 3G package you can get an add on of 500MB of data transfer per month for HK$88 (also until the 31st March 500MB per month is also free… so only after 31st march do you start paying… then it is HK$88 per month). This add-on is called their “Home PC” package.
So all together is HK$188 if I stick to less than 500MB per month of data transfer (and HK$0.06 per MB I exceed).
This is also a lot cheaper way of getting data access compated to their standard data package rates (500MB under their standard rates is HK$288, rather than HK$88 – stange but it is good that they have this Home plan!!!…. – so great the 3G data wars have started!!!
For Home PC HK$88 plan pls see (is no English version of this on their website)- http://xseries.three.com.hk/we…cing.shtml
Standard data plan which is more expensive if use over 5MB per month (cheaper if use a lot as can get unlimted for HK$48, pls see http://www.three.com.hk/websit…0&lang=eng
Also on top (if can use java propietry software which a couple of phone models only support), rather than pdas as such (i.e. apparently the D810 can’t be used for this extra bonus) – as part of the Home PC package you can also get MSN, Yahoo access unlimted included in this price on top of the 500MB per month. Guess the java is so they know it is not data transfer (pity can not be used on dopod – smile) – but 500MB not including this extra for my Dopod is ok for now for me to try it out.
Also there is no contract for this package – so can change anytime one likes.
I just joined this so I can get net access when out and about… just thought I would let people know incase they are interested and as I gewilou like I, can not read the chinese on 3’s website very well… thanks for comments on your review Kaitech (finding same with my Dopod D810 – nice little machine) – very useful reviews and comments – also why I have no hesitation getting 3G data access, as you show it works well… cheers, AndrewNovember 27, 2007 at 8:03 am #2698
i managed to set up the connection sharing. do you get to receive voice calls while using it as a modem? mine doesnt. but if its not used as a modem, it does. could it be the network provider?November 27, 2007 at 8:03 am #2699
I have a Dopod 838 pro and I use 1010’s HSPDA plan. I just installed HTweakC 2.0. I have enabled HSPDA but how do I know if it’s working? I get the “feeling” that the download speed is faster but I don’t “know.” Is there any way to check?
JCNovember 27, 2007 at 8:03 am #2700
This is purely by observation and using GPRS Monitor to compare data rates:
When using HSDPA on the PDA the fastest data rate I have seen so far is 303kb/secs. I personally don’t feel it is any slower than me using the PDA with wifi.
When I connect the D810 to the laptop and use it as a modem I see data rate speeds of over 900 kb/secs. This really rocks!!November 27, 2007 at 8:03 am #2701
I have connected the D810 up to the laptop as a modem and rang myself. Interestingly there were three occasions when I couldn’t get through and got redirected to voicemail. However there were many occasions when I managed to get and answer the call. I noticed that the H icons were up when the calls did not get through. The calls got through when the 3G icons were present. The 3G icon shows up when the connection is idle so I think that maybe the calls do not go through when data transfer is in process?November 27, 2007 at 8:03 am #2702
Let the wireless broadband price wars begin!!!November 27, 2007 at 8:03 am #2703
how do you use d810 internet sharing with a mac book but this time via the bluetooth and not the usb cable. Any dopod users have done this??
your response is greatly appreciatedNovember 27, 2007 at 8:03 am #2704
My experience is that all you have to do is make sure you have OS X 10.4.8 or later, then you can pair the two and internet sharing via PAN becomes an option (can’t remember the details now as I did it ages ago). You then run the “Internet Sharing” program on the Dopod D810.
Now… if anyone can let me know how to do it over the USB cable. I have a feeling that it should be faster than BT, but I can’t get the Mac to recognise the fact that the Dopod is connected. Mac networking seems a mystery to me. It is supposed to be easy (which it is in most cases), but when it doesn’t work it is not clear to me how to get “under the hood”.
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